I have to ask, though, where does prayer for healing enter? Or does it?
Also, from this past week's parashah, it seems to me that B'nei Yisrael had to cry out first, before HaShem would do anything to help them. Even though He already knew what what going on in Egypt. Crying out (prayer?) was their part.
Regarding the qorbanoth, I think I get it. Qorbanoth occur either because they were commanded and/or they occur after the fact: sin, thanks, purification...
But prayer for the sick, are we not trying to influence HaShem? Prayer to win a war? Prayer to escape a dangerous situation?
I believe the Rambam (I'll have to find the specific source in Hil. Teshuvah) enters into a philosophical Q&A about free will vs. HaShem knowing our decisions anyway. The Raavad comes along later, and says, don't ask such questions.
I think that when we say a mi sheberach for the sick, we don't say, like Moshe did: קל נא רפא נא לה. We formulate it as a statement of belief that God *will* heal whoever it is.
The whole phrasing of "The One who blessed our ancestors will bless these people" is a comforting statement of bitachon in God.
It's been pointed out by better and wiser folks than me that the word for prayer in Hebrew is in the reflexive form. More than that, the root means to "judge", in the sense of evaluating good and bad, right and wrong. It's very much a thing that we do for its effect on ourselves, rather than for any effect it might have on God.
In U'netaneh Tokef on Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, I always notice that line:
ותשובה ותפילה וצדקה מעבירין את רוע הגזרה.
The three things mentioned there are arguably the highest forms of interaction (a) between us and God, (b) between us and ourselves, and (c) between us and others. And in terms of those things "making the evil decree go away", that's not saying that God must respond by doing that. But if God is judging us, I'd imagine he'd take that into account, no?
I guess the way we justify this is that we see evil decrees as conditional. If we ask from them to be removed, then maybe HaShem will, since acknowledging His authority is part of our job, so to speak.
I believe we can see this in the rule that negative prophecy does not have to be manifested.
I think I'm beginning to wrap my head around it all.
True That on learning a new language.There is a retired professor locally who teaches Koine Greek and Hebrew. I bet you thought red necks wouldn’t give Yahweh the time of day.
Coolness. And no, I never assume anything. People have hidden depths. If it isn't in one area, it's in another. And it's super cool when you get to see them.
It happened on the video therefore my theory is valid until disproven beyond know it isn't, beyond odd to me that this occurred, can you give me context?
The narrator is not friendly to Jewish people and points out what I thought and I'm aware of the communist taint on Jewish history including my own family and don't see this as connected to that but would appreciate any insights
If they were doing a pageant to showcase Jewish history, it was obviously going to include the idolators who surrounded us. The idea that we ourselves were touting that sort of thing can't be argued in good faith.
"The root m-l-k in Hebrew generally means 'king'..."
Happy MLK Day! (but don't tell the Black Hebrews)
Interesting read.
I have to ask, though, where does prayer for healing enter? Or does it?
Also, from this past week's parashah, it seems to me that B'nei Yisrael had to cry out first, before HaShem would do anything to help them. Even though He already knew what what going on in Egypt. Crying out (prayer?) was their part.
Regarding the qorbanoth, I think I get it. Qorbanoth occur either because they were commanded and/or they occur after the fact: sin, thanks, purification...
But prayer for the sick, are we not trying to influence HaShem? Prayer to win a war? Prayer to escape a dangerous situation?
I believe the Rambam (I'll have to find the specific source in Hil. Teshuvah) enters into a philosophical Q&A about free will vs. HaShem knowing our decisions anyway. The Raavad comes along later, and says, don't ask such questions.
What does Lisa say? ...about prayer?
I think that when we say a mi sheberach for the sick, we don't say, like Moshe did: קל נא רפא נא לה. We formulate it as a statement of belief that God *will* heal whoever it is.
The whole phrasing of "The One who blessed our ancestors will bless these people" is a comforting statement of bitachon in God.
It's been pointed out by better and wiser folks than me that the word for prayer in Hebrew is in the reflexive form. More than that, the root means to "judge", in the sense of evaluating good and bad, right and wrong. It's very much a thing that we do for its effect on ourselves, rather than for any effect it might have on God.
In U'netaneh Tokef on Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, I always notice that line:
ותשובה ותפילה וצדקה מעבירין את רוע הגזרה.
The three things mentioned there are arguably the highest forms of interaction (a) between us and God, (b) between us and ourselves, and (c) between us and others. And in terms of those things "making the evil decree go away", that's not saying that God must respond by doing that. But if God is judging us, I'd imagine he'd take that into account, no?
I guess the way we justify this is that we see evil decrees as conditional. If we ask from them to be removed, then maybe HaShem will, since acknowledging His authority is part of our job, so to speak.
I believe we can see this in the rule that negative prophecy does not have to be manifested.
I think I'm beginning to wrap my head around it all.
That's what I think.
Excellent Piece - Havah
Thanks!
True That on learning a new language.There is a retired professor locally who teaches Koine Greek and Hebrew. I bet you thought red necks wouldn’t give Yahweh the time of day.
Coolness. And no, I never assume anything. People have hidden depths. If it isn't in one area, it's in another. And it's super cool when you get to see them.
You got me wrong, sister.
You also are making a grand mistake yourself.
I'll try to flesh it out in a coming post.
G-d be with you.
And you.
Moloch reenactment is a thing in modernity & by Jews
https://youtu.be/XZclTH-PwGA
Can you give context?
Hebrew source of Languages by ?Gershon Glazerson? It's somewhere in my library and was fascinating when I was last able to find it.
No it isn't.
It happened on the video therefore my theory is valid until disproven beyond know it isn't, beyond odd to me that this occurred, can you give me context?
The narrator is not friendly to Jewish people and points out what I thought and I'm aware of the communist taint on Jewish history including my own family and don't see this as connected to that but would appreciate any insights
Toda raba
If they were doing a pageant to showcase Jewish history, it was obviously going to include the idolators who surrounded us. The idea that we ourselves were touting that sort of thing can't be argued in good faith.
That gives context, appreciated 👍