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Pulling on Superman's Cape's avatar

It doesn't matter. It is not about prosperity or freedom or a good life for their children. It is about Dar al-Islam* being occupied by dhimmis and infidels. It isn't about what they have it is that you have anything at all. As long as the Jews and Crusader's have anything, the Muslims will try to kill him.

*Dar al Islam - in the Muslim mindset there are 2 kinds of land, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Hareb. The land of Islam and the land of the sword. Once something becomes Dar al-Islam it can never go back to being part of Dar al-Hareb. This is what they mean when they say that "Jews defile the Temple Mount with their filthy feet". They will never give up. As long as there is still one religious Muslim on this planet, they will insist that every thing that was once under Muslim rulership, needs to stay under Muslim rulership. Watch out Spain. You are next.

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Carolyn Makovi's avatar

I agree with just about everything you said. Just a correction: Trump was elected twice. Not 3 times. After FDR a limit of 2 terms was placed on each president.

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Carolyn Makovi's avatar

P.S. Trump's 2 terms are not consecutive. The only other time that happened was with Grover Cleveland.

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Lisa Liel's avatar

I hear you, Carolyn. But I still think he won in 2020.

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Carolyn Makovi's avatar

I wasn't thinking about that one. Point well taken.

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Zaq Harrison's avatar

How much money and effort will it cost to rebuild Gaza on top of the tunnels and what is left?

How much money and effort to build a new Gaza on a tract of land equal or greater 20-30-40 miles south along the barren Egyptian coast?

I heard about this last week. Of all the crazy ideas I've ever heard this might not be so crazy

They can build their own infrastructure, water, electric....what isn't being said is Israel would no longer be "responsible" for hiring 100,000 Gazans every day

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Lisa Liel's avatar

Removing them will do that. It doesn't require US occupation.

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Lisa Liel's avatar

We have to rebuild Gaza. Not for them, but for us. And to be mekayem the mitzvah of yishuv Eretz Yisrael.

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Lisa Liel's avatar

Not only should the victims of the 2005 ethnic cleansing be allowed to return, and construction of their homes paid for by the government, every single soldier who has served in Gaza, and the families of those who have fallen in Gaza, should receive a land grant in the Strip, free and clear.

The only peace is getting the Arabs out of Yesha.

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

I'm not sure that they should be allowed to return. Most of them didn't fight for their land. And the Jews that came to support them, and renovated the hotel in Shirat HaYam were demonized, expelled, and even jailed. And their Only Kfar Darom and a handful of residents here and there fought. Sure they were duped. And now? Most still repeat the same mistakes over again, expecting different results. To this day, the mamlakhti (diehard State loyalist) media machine continues to work its magic on the masses. Now when I recommend seeing the 40 min. video Meraglim (Spies), Jews are dumbfounded or are in disbelief. Jews have called me a liar for quoting Rabbi Avraham Shapira ztz"l past Rosh Yeshivat Merkaz HaRav: he ripped up mamlakhti Rabbi Aviner's opnion piece against refusing orders, and he told soldiers to be proud to sit in jail, rather than kick Jews out of their homes, among other things. Brainwashing does not describe the full strength of what occurred before and during the Expulsion. Rabbi Efraim Tashnadi went to the Rabbi of Neveh Deqalim and asked what was the plan to fight. The Rabbi said, "pray." Tashnadi was dumbfounded. But that was the mentality. The lie Torah = State continues to this day. Now, tell me again the former residents, with some exceptions like Kfarm Darom, Alei Sinai, Dugit, and Nisanit (maybe) should have anything given to them. Maybe with a lot of hard work. Maybe. https://esseragaroth.substack.com/p/yesha-council-modern-day-spies-film

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Lisa Liel's avatar

I am. But politics isn't really for me. I ran in the Zehut primaries many years ago, and in 2019, I was number 81 on their list for Knesset (purely honorary).

But I'll tell you this. There is one party, under one leader, who will do everything I just said.

It's true that Zehut didn't get into the Knesset when it ran, but how many times did Otzma Yehudit run and fail to get in before finally getting in?

Moshe Feiglin is the *only* person trying to lead the country who is 100% determined to cancel the Oslo Accords. Even if I disagreed with everything else in his platform (and I don't), that would be enough for me.

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Diana Murray's avatar

I couldn't agree more with you but, and I find this difficult to say, Israel wouldn't know what to do with it. Nothing lasts forever. If God thinks Gaza is Israel, that's enough for me. Did the Holy Land stop being Israel just because the Ottomans ruled it?

Let an international consortium of business magnates develop the place. Just get the "Palestinians" OUT.

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Lisa Liel's avatar

Israel would absolutely know what to do with it. It's quite simple. The land stolen from the inhabitants of Gush Katif gets returned to the victims, or their heirs, and the government creates a fund to be used for rebuilding it. A set amount of land is granted to every single soldier who served in Gaza, and the families of every single soldier who fell in Gaza. They can keep it or sell it to contractors.

We can have Gaza up and thriving inside 5 years.

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Diana Murray's avatar

After two weeks Israelis would be at each others' throats. Why would the future be any different from the past?

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Lisa Liel's avatar

Because we don't squabble about everything. Chill.

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

Lisa, you know I like and respect you and appreciate your work. But "God bless?" Really No. Each time Jews bless, praise, or accept help (for simplicity's sake, I'll say "unnecessary assistance.") we add to Edom's זכות בשמים merit in Heaven, thus delaying its downfall. Sure, HaShem will take care of them in the end. Joel 4:19, Ovadiah 1, etc. But why delay what could happen sooner?

קסרי וירושלים אם יאמר לך אדם חרבו שתיהן אל תאמן ישבו שתיהן אל תאמן חרבה קסרי וישבה ירושלים חרבה ירושלים וישבה קסרי תאמן שנאמר אמלאה החרבה (יחזקאל כו,ב) אם מליאה זו חרבה זו אם מליאה זו חרבה זו. (תלמוד בבלי, מגילה ו,א)

Edom (The West) and Israel cannot prosper simultaneously.

https://esseragaroth.substack.com/p/will-israel-continue-to-fight-americas

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Queerperspective's avatar

You’re so blue-pilled.

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Lisa Liel's avatar

You think the 2005 ethnic cleansing was forced on Israel? No. Sharon did it to get the attention off his corruption and that of his son.

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

Yes. Instead of bombings, the UAE and Saudis are just buying up our land, and with the passive, if not active, participation of Jews, in contravention of the negative commandment "lo tehonem" (Deut. 7:2). Religious Zionism indeed!

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

The elaboration of the mitzvoth stated in Deut. 7:2 can be found in the Laws of Avodah Zarah and Non-Jews 10:1, and includes not allowing them to gain any foothold within our Land, not selling homes, nor fields, nor leasing to them, save for storage facilities (maybe rented out). And yet, here we are.

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